We Predict the Next Big Park City Battle…
…teachers versus district…
Now that Vail VS PCMR is settled, with the only loser being a coffee company (and perhaps a community), we thought we might chime in on the next big Park City battle. It’s funny how one test, in this case the SAGE test, can upset the apple cart. As Rahm Emanuel says, “You never let a serious crisis go to waste.”
SAGE is the latest Utah standardized test that attempts to gauge student understanding of key concepts and labels students as proficient (or not) in those subjects. The results were not what most parents expected. Overall in the district, 57% were proficient in language, 52% proficient in mathematics, and 55% proficient in in science.
So, the school district set goals of increasing each student group’s (i.e. 3rd grade Hispanic kids) proficiency by about 6%. So, for instance, “By May 2015, 3rd grade Hispanic students will increase proficiency from 17% to 23% in English Language Arts.” The next SAGE test is spring 2015 and there isn’t much time to actually do anything other than set goals. So, that’s what has been done.
Yet, the process for long-term change is what interests us. It’s shaping up as school administration versus teacher. The School District is pushing for Professional Learning Communities (PLCs) as a solution to low test scores. PLCs have been called “the most powerful professional professional development and change strategy available.” Yet, the PLC concept requires that teachers work together to find the optimal education path for each student. That sounds great, but can you and your husband completely agree on the best path for your own kid? How are 5 teachers, who have different backgrounds, opinions, and strategies going to come together to prescribe the optimal strategy for every child? They likely can’t but that’s not the point of this piece.
The point is to say that many teachers are going to hate this. They, much like they’ve forced their students to do, will begrudgingly work together because of edicts from above. Many teachers are artists, they find the right mix of paints to put on the canvas in order to create a “Bob Ross.” Artists create masterpieces but 5 artists rarely enjoy coming together to make a masterpiece (with the exception of We are the World, of course).
Will multiple teachers be able to work together to find the best solution for each child? Will they have time for the additional meetings that this will require? Will they feel this takes away from “learning”? Will each teacher feel they own the process or will they feel they are forced into this experiment? Will teachers compete against each other rather than work together?
Will a group of teachers be able to come together and provide a better educational experience than each individual teacher did alone? In some ways it’s a challenge to teachers. Park City has some of the highest paid teachers in the state but SAGE test results were sub-par. In many industries the highest paid can adapt and make success out of about any situation. Teachers are being told “from above” that they will work together and children will get better test scores. Can they achieve that? What does that pressure feel like? Does salary equate to success when the direction is provided from above?
If it’s like most industries where management tells the employee what to do, we can anticipate the results. It’s not going to be pretty. You won’t read about it in the Park Record. You may hear a simple question that alludes to it on KCPW and not much more. However, you’ll really hear about it at dinner parties and at Hugo Coffee on weekends.
One of Bob Dylan’s songs is “The times they are a changing.” That seems pretty apropos for the Park City School District. The district feels test scores need to rise TODAY. The only people that can influence that are students and teachers. So, the district devises a plan for the teachers. Was it well thought out? Did it get teacher buy-in? Will it ultimately be successful?
The process may be more entertaining that HBO boxing on Friday nights. It should be interesting to watch.
Which Park City Schools will Be Closed to Outside Enrollment in 2015?
This week, the Park City School District discusses which of our schools will be “open” for enrollment next year. Open for enrollment means that students from other districts can apply to go to a Park City School. This year Parley’s Park and Trailside were closed.
While things could change based on school board discussions, given the data it looks like Trailside will remain closed, Parley’s Park will be open again, and the high school will become closed.
The high school being “closed” presents an interesting situation. Park City School District Policy states that any out-of-district student who starts elementary school can complete elementary school, but has to re-apply for middle school. The same rule applies for each transition between classes of school (elementary school, middle school, junior high, high school). So, that could mean that current district students at Treasure Mountain may not be able to continue at the high school.
The other interesting thing to note, given current calculations, there is room for over 500 out-of-district students in Park City schools. If you recall, our last property tax increase was partly due to 200 extra students. So, it looks like there is plenty of room for our costs to escalate even further.
It’s too bad for Park City Roasters, but ….
It’s unfortunate to hear that Park City Roasters has lost its PCMR contract. We like local success stories.
However, that got us to thinking, Park City Roasters never really had our PERSONAL contract. Why? It’s just too expensive. Typically a bag of Park City Roasters coffee costs $11.99 at the super market. Starbucks, Pete’s, or Dunkin Doughnuts costs between $7.99 and $8.99 per bag. We don’t mind paying a little more for local but not 35%-50%.
So, we wish it was different but we can’t criticize too much when we don’t have a personal contract with PC Roasters either.
Superintendent Dr Ember Conley May Be the Exact Right Person to Address our Schools’ Upcoming Challenges
On Tuesday, the Park City School Board discussed class sizes of Park City Schools. Before this discussion, Superintendent Conley spoke about a vision for where the schools were going and how that impacts class size. We found the honesty, focus, insight, and willingness to address hard topics refreshing. Not everyone will like what she has to say, but the path our school system is on is unsustainable. The status quo is not an option.
Here are Dr Conley’s comments:
“I think we are taking the focus away from what we need to be focused on which is what careers and college expectations do we need to prepare our students for. Take class sizes out of it. We are looking at our specific courses. Just because we’ve always done it, doesn’t mean we are going to continue doing it the same way next year. I’m just going to throwing [an example] out. Just because we’ve offered weight training, 3 sections, does not mean we are going to continue that. We also have a growing demand for computer science, programming, coding. So, I think rather than getting hyper focused on class sizes. We have the information. It goes to what is the absolute requirement that we have to have our students be prepared for and have the opportunity to learn in our schools.”
A school board member then says that the items they hear about all the time from citizens and teachers is about class size. He says “so we’ve got a little bit of a disconnect.” Dr. Conley responds:
“See, I think they are completely connected. As we go through this refinement, this is going to be a difficult time and I’m preparing you because there is going to be some disappointment and there is going to be some shifts in what we’ve always done to be able to prepare for the future. And so there is going to be shifts in staffing. There’s going to be shifts in what we’ve always offered. And those are going to be some very hard conversations because it does affect staffing. This is where you have to say, If I free up staffing in this area that really is very fluffy or not needed to prepare our students for that data we just saw, we have more staffing to be able to put in to class sizes that are high … and that is the whole conversation [we’ve been having].”
It’s really hard to argue with what Dr Conley said above. The overall goal of school is to prepare students for the future and the more focused everyone stays on that issue, the better the outcomes for our students. It would be a nice luxury if our students could spend all day in Plato’s Academy, discussing topics like what is good and shadows on the wall, but that’s not tomorrow’s world. Tomorrow’s world poses a myriad of challenges and we owe it to our students to prepare them as best we can. We give them the most opportunity by offering those courses that prepare them the best, even if that does upset parents, teachers, and students at times.
We wish Dr Conley and her administrators luck. We’re sure it’s not going to be easy, but we think you may be on the right path.
Employee Parking Pass For Sundance Goes Up By $450
Something we haven’t heard many people talking about with regard to Park City’s proposed employee parking changes for Main Street is the increase in cost for parking during Sundance. Right now an annual parking pass, with a Sundance option costs $300. If the new parking regulations are passed, this goes up to $750. Wow.
We understand that the Kardashians are going to be at Sundance, but they aren’t going to be working there.
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Thoughts on Park City’s New Parking Proposal
This week the Park City City Council will discuss Main Street employee parking. The City believes that the majority of parking on Main Street is being taken up by employees. A staff report says “A Main Street Business survey was completed that showed that there may be as many as 1,000 employees working during busy times which could be taking up 60-70 percent of available parking in the Main Street area.”
So, the city is considering raising parking fees for people parking more than 6 hours in China Bridge, increasing enforcement, initiating a transit service that runs every 10 minutes between Treasure Mountain and the Old Town Transit Center, and enforcing main street meters until 11PM (instead of 8PM like now).
Here are some thoughts on those ideas:
- The proposed parking permit for China Bridge is $300 per year to enable 6 hours of parking that includes Friday and Saturday nights or $150 without Friday and Saturday nights. The claim we heard this morning on KPCW from City Manager Diane Foster was that “It’s even cheaper [even if we raise the rates] to get a parking pass in China Bridge than to rent a locker at the MARC.” Sounds good, except a large locker at the MARC costs $120 per year (a small one is $90). We always worry when they use manipulative concepts like this that don’t appear to be true.
- How many of the people who need to buy this $300 pass are seasonal? We have many friends that trade their summer jobs to work on Main St during peak season. So, this $300 isn’t spread across a year, it’s only a few months. Perhaps the businesses will buy it for employees?
- They are providing a van that will take people from Treasure Mountain school into the Old Town Transit Station from 3:30PM – 7:00PM. The thought being people will park at the school and ride the van in. Our question is how do they get back to their car when they are done at the restaurant at 11:30 PM?
- They are considering enforcing parking meters on Main St until 11PM (instead of until 8PM). They say it’s to stop people from “spot jumping”… that is moving their car onto Main St after 8PM. We wonder if that’s really just a cash grab for more meter revenue.
- Speaking of meter revenue, we as locals liked to be able to go down to Main St at 8PM and park for free in front of a restaurant during the slow season. Does this stay in effect during the shoulder season? Will that ability to park free go away? If so, will the locals also go away?
- They are going to issue up to 600 permits. There are 648 total spaces in China Bridge. So, if this program is successful and say 80% of the available permits are sold. That’s about 500 people. Those people are probably going to use the heck out of the permit. So that leaves about 23% of the spaces for customers. How exactly does this solve the problem?
- Perhaps the biggest question is why those people who park and then “spot jump” today would buy a pass? It still appears just as easy to move a person’s car under these new rules. Maybe the convenience of not having to move their car or the fear of a ticket will encourage them? We’ll see.
- Is this just another in a long line of things that will be implemented, fees will be introduced, and we’ll never hear about again? If they are going to implement this we’d like to have some way to gauge success of the program (i.e. how many visitors to Main St can’t find parking now… how many can’t after this is implemented). Otherwise, we’ll likely be back in 3 years proposing more of the same not knowing whether the same ever did anything to curb the problem.
During the city’s pilot program this summer, they didn’t have much success encouraging workers to reduce parking around Main Street. We’re afraid that the concepts being considered here won’t do anything to stop your local bar-keep from doing what she’s doing today.
Park City High School…Which Classes Would You Cut?
It should be an interesting few years for the Park City School District. The school district is running up against a taxation limit and therefore funds will be limited and the school board will have to make hard choices. Parents appear to want smaller class sizes, lots of class options, and programs like early release. Smaller classes, more options, and early release all end up costing the district more money. In the past increased taxes have been the answer to avoid confrontations between the school district and parents. Yet, unless Utah tax laws change, the district won’t have that option and the answer will either be lower teacher salaries, increased class sizes, and/or fewer programs. As they say, “the math doesn’t lie.”
With that in mind, let’s take a look at the current classes at Park City High School and see what you think should be cut. The course catalog reads like something out of Salt Lake Community College. 3D modeling. Yep. Entrepreneurship for Business. Sure. Jewelry. Uhh..Check. The high school lists 210 courses in its catalog. So, let’s get ready to pretend we need to cut programs in order to maintain current student/teacher ratios. You’ll likely need to cut at least 10% of the classes to even make a dent in the budget. Which 21 classes would you cut? We know… For every class there is someone that “could not live without it.” Even if the district tried to cut a class like “Underwater Basket Weaving” someone would be devastated (believe it or not… that is a class at Reed College). So take a shot. Which 21 would you remove? It’s both easier and harder than you may think.
Course | Grade(s) | Length |
ACT/SAT Prep | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
3D Animation | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
3D Graphics | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Accounting I | 11, 12 | Semester |
Accounting II | 11, 12 | Semester |
Adult Roles & Responsibilities | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Advanced Drawing & Painting | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Advanced English | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Advanced Photography/AP Photography | 11, 12 | Year |
Advanced Stage Tech | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
American Sign Language I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Anthropology | 11, 12 | Semester |
AP Art History | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Art Studio: 3D Design | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Biology | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
AP Calculus AB | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Calculus BC | 12 | Year |
AP Chemistry | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Computer Science | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Economics | 11, 12 | Year |
AP English Language & Composition | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Environmental Science | 11, 12 | Year |
AP European History | 11, 12 | Year |
AP French V | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
AP Literature & Composition | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Music Theory | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Physics C | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Physics I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
AP Physics I/II + Lab (Formerly AP B Physics) |
11, 12 | Year |
AP Psychology | 11, 12 | Year |
AP Spanish Language & Composition | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
AP Spanish Literature | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
AP Statistics | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
AP Studio Art | 11, 12 | Year |
AP US Government | 11, 12 | Year |
AP US History | 11, 12 | Year |
AP World History | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Architectural Design I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Architectural Design II | 11, 12 | Year |
Art Foundations II | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Athletic Strength Training | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Beginning Ceramics | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Beginning English for ELL/Reading A | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Biology | 10 | Year |
Biotechnology | 11, 12 | Year |
Business Communication I | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Business Law | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Cabinet Making | 11, 12 | Year |
Calculus A | 11 | Semester |
Ceramics II/III | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Chamber Choir | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Chamber Orchestra | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Chemistry | 11, 12 | Year |
Child Development | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
College Algebra (Math 1050) | 12 | Semester |
Community Access | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Comprehensive English | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Comprehensive Social Studies | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Computer Programming IA | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Computer Programming IB | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Computer Technology II | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Concert Choir | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Consumer Health | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Content Link 10 | 10 | Year |
Content Link 11 | 11 | Year |
Content Link 12 | 12 | Year |
Creative Writing | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Daily Living Skills | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Dance Company | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Dance I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Dance II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Dance III | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Dental Assistant | 12 | Year |
Designer Sewing | 11, 12 | Year |
Digital Media I: Design & Development | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Digital Media II: Production | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Digital Photography | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Drama II (Beginning) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Drama III (Intermediate) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Drama IV (Advanced Theatre) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Drawing | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Economics | 11, 12 | Semester |
ELL Content Link 10 | 10 | Year |
ELL Content Link 11 | 11 | Year |
ELL Content Link 12 | 12 | Year |
Emergency Medical Technician (EMT-B) | 12 | Year |
Engineering & Technical Design I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Engineering & Technical Design II | 11, 12 | Year |
English 10 | 10 | Year |
English 11 | 11 | Year |
English 12 | 12 | Year |
Entrepreneurship for Business | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Ethics | 11, 12 | Year |
Film Making I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Film Making II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Film Studies | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Financial Literacy | 11, 12 | Semester |
Food & Nutrition I | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Food & Nutrition II | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Forensics (Debate) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
French I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
French II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
French III | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
French IV | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Furniture Design & Manufacturing | 11, 12 | Year |
Geology | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Government | 11, 12 | Semester |
Healthy Lifestyles II: Fitness for Life | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Healthy Lifestyles III: Adventure PE | 11, 12 | Semester |
Healthy Lifestyles III: Aerobics | 11, 12 | Semester |
Healthy Lifestyles III: Cardiovascular Training |
11, 12 | Semester |
Healthy Lifestyles III: Competitive Team Sports |
11, 12 | Semester |
Healthy Lifestyles III: Sports for Life | 11, 12 | Semester |
Healthy Lifestyles III: Weight Training | 11, 12 | Semester |
Honors Chemistry | 10 | Year |
Honors English 10 | 10 | Year |
Honors English 11 | 11 | Year |
Honors English 12 | 12 | Year |
Honors World History | 10 | Year |
Independent Living Skills | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Instructional Teaching Assistant | 11, 12 | Semester |
Interior Design | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Intermediate English | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Intro to Emergency Medical Services (EMS, First Aid) |
10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Intro to Statistics (Math 1040) | 12 | Semester |
Introduction to Construction Technology | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Jazz Band I (JV) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Jazz Band II (Varsity) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Jewelry I-B | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Jewelry II | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Journalism I, II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Journalism II | 11, 12 | Year |
Latinos in Action (LIA) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Leadership I | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Life Studies | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Mandarin Chinese I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Mandarin Chinese II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Mandarin Chinese III | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Mandarin Chinese IV | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Mandarin Chinese IV Honors | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Marketing | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Math B-D | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Medical Anatomy & Physiology | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Medical Math | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Medical Terminology | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Modern Mathematics | 11, 12 | Year |
Music Apprecation | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Music Theory | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Nursing Assistant (CNA) | 11, 12 | Year |
Painting | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Parent Release | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
PCCAPS Business Strategy I-IV | 11, 12 | Semester |
PCCAPS Engineering I-IV: Not Just for Engineers! |
11, 12 | Semester |
PCCAPS Interactive Design I-IV: Print, Film, & Web Solutions |
11, 12 | Semester |
PCCAPS Teacher Education I-II: Teaching in 2020 |
11, 12 | Semester |
PCCAPS Technology & Software Development for the Innovator I-IV |
11, 12 | Semester |
Peer Tutoring | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Percussion I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Percussion II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Percussion III (Ensemble) | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Pharmacy Technician | 12 | Year |
Photography | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Physical Science | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Physics | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Physics with Technology | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Pre-Engineering Technology | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Printmaking | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
ProStart | 11, 12 | Year |
Psychology | 11, 12 | Semester |
Quantitative Reasoning (Math 1030) | 12 | Semester |
Reading A – F | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Related Work-Based Learning | 11, 12 | Semester |
Religion Release | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Robotics & Automation | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Scriptwriting/Production | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Secondary Mathematics II | 10 | Year |
Secondary Mathematics II Honors | 10 | Year |
Secondary Mathematics III | 11 | Year |
Secondary Mathematics III Honors | 11 | Year |
Social Media Marketing | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Sociology | 11, 12 | Semester |
Spanish for Spanish Speakers I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Spanish for Spanish Speakers II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Spanish I | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Spanish II | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Spanish III: Beginning Conversation | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Spanish IV: Intermediate Conversation | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Spanish V: Advanced Conversation | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Sports Marketing | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Sports Medicine/Exercise Science | 11, 12 | Year |
Sports Sewing | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Stage Tech | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Student Council | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Study Hall | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Symphonic Band | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Symphony Orchestra | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Teacher’s Aide | 11, 12 | Semester |
Television Broadcasting I: MMS Live Production Team |
10, 11, 12 | Year |
Television Broadcasting II: MMS Live Production Team |
11, 12 | Year |
Trigonometry (Math 1060) | 12 | Semester |
United States History II | 11, 12 | Year |
Video Production I: MMS Video Production Team |
10, 11, 12 | Year |
Video Production II: MMS Video Production Team |
11, 12 | Year |
Vocational Skills | 10, 11, 12 | Semester |
Wind Ensemble | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Woodworking | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Work Release | 11, 12 | Semester |
World Civilizations | 10 | Year |
Yearbook | 10, 11, 12 | Year |
Zoology | 11, 12 | Year |
Riverhorse Wants to Enclose Its Deck During the Winter
Riverhorse on Main wants to enclose its upper deck to enable service of additional customers during the winter. The concept is expected to look similar to this:
The City appears to be against this because they feel the structure impacts the historic nature of Main Street. They say “These balcony enclosures also threaten the historic integrity of historic commercial buildings. Staff finds that the proposed enclosures do not meet the Design Guidelines for Historic Sites.”
Our only question is, if that’s true, and a reason to prevent this… aren’t the plywood decks constructed for summer dining even worse? We realize they are 5 feet away from the buildings, but that’s splitting hairs. We don’t see how you can allow the summer decks but prevent the winter ones, especially when the winter ones will look better. If you want to maintain “the historic integrity” of Main St then ditch the summer decks too. Otherwise, realize that the purpose of both summer and winter decks is to meet customer demand and allow them both.
Who Was the Genius Who Decided to Interrupt Jeremy Ranch School Traffic?
This morning around 7 AM construction workers started setting up blockades at the corner of Rasmussen and Homestead Roads in Jeremy Ranch. These blockades took traffic down to one lane each way. This is the corner that most traffic goes through to get to Jeremy Ranch Elementary. As of 8 AM, traffic was backed up all the way from Rasmussen Road to Kilby Rd (entire way across freeway).
The kicker, as of 8AM it appears no work was or had been done. There should be rules and penalties for impacting so many people for so little reason.
There are Honest People in Summit County
During many Summit County Council meetings, the County Council approves changes to home values that are reflected in property tax requirements. For instance, a property owner may protest their home’s valuation. While it’s the Assesors job to review these, the County Council makes the final approval or denial.
This week, there is interesting change. A Bellemont at Deer Valley Condominium increased in valuation from $635,000 to $2,750,000. A note next to the entry said “computer dropped a zero s/b $2,750,000. An honest owner called this one in.” What’s the difference in property taxes they’ll pay each year due to their honesty? $19,000. Yeah, we’d call that extremely honest.
We think the county owes these people one… We know it doesn’t always work that way, but if this condo owner ever needed something, and it was possible for Summit County to grant, we’d sure try.