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Audio from Today’s “Office Hours” — About the Park City School Threat

Below is the audio from today’s “Office Hours with Dr Conley.” It’s a little hard to hear in places, due to the Visitor Center’s layout. Due to the subject matter, I wanted to get it out as early as possible.

So, hopefully you can get the information you need. It was a doozy of a meeting. If you’d prefer, a written summary of each comment is posted below in the next story.

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Office Hours With Dr Conley (5/6/2016)

Wow. If you wanted drama, you should have been at Office Hours With(out) Dr Conley this morning at Hugo Coffee. Each Friday, through the end of May, school district personnel are at Hugo Coffee to engage in conversation and answer questions. Today, School District Communications Specialist Molly Miller did an admirable job in the absence of School Board Superintendent Dr. Ember Conley. Approximately 20 to 25 people attended the meeting, which was focused on this week’s “threat” to Park City schools. In addition, Park City Police Chief, Wade Carpenter, another police officer, and Summit County Chief Deputy, Frank Smith, attended to answer questions.

I don’t know if school district Communications Specialist Molly Miller drinks alcohol, but if she does Dr Conley owes her a nice bottle of wine (or a summer of snow cones if she does not) for her handling of the situation. There were more than a few passionate people at the meeting.

Unfortunately, I had to leave an hour and a half into the meeting. So, I didn’t capture the conclusion. However, the following should give you a good flavor for how it went down. I tried to paraphrase what each person said during the meeting. I also have audio of the meeting which I will post a little bit later.


Molly Miller (School District): We understand that people are angry. Unfortunately Dr Conley could not be here due to a pre-existing commitment. Going forward, the district is changing procedures on how to communicate so that the next time the district can do better.

Citizen: When were you informed that there was a threat?

Chief Carpenter: I’ll answer that. In October we received a threat specific to this. The school resource office let us know there were problems. There was a plan in place to deal with the individual who did this. It is the chief’s understanding that the individual had been out of school since that time. Chief Carpenter says he has been researching active shooter cases. He says research suggests that when an individual is segregated from peers for long periods of time, there is an increased chance that they are more likely to engage in violent outbursts such an active shooter situations. Similar to situations where the student had not been on campus for 7 months. Carpenter said that he would rather know the location of the individual that made the threats. This would give law enforcement the ability to search them and keep an eye on them in a controlled environment versus having them sit at home thinking about what their intent to do potential harm.

Citizen: Kids knew kid and kids knew of the date. That’s how it became an issue.

Citizen: Email from Ember triggered whole thing.

Citizen: My concern is that the police knew there was a threat for the May 3rd, who was not in district for extended period of time. Why at the time when this threat was made weren’t parents notified?

Chief Carpenter: That’s not my issue. I don’t have authority to speak on behalf of the district. I wasn’t aware there was an email going out at 10PM. I was not aware that the child was coming back that day.

Citizen: Why weren’t parents notified?

Chief Carpenter: I’ve answered that.

Molly: In October the threat was neutralized. The safety plan worked. The communication plan did not work (there wasn’t one).

Citizen: Why wasn’t there one?

Molly: I have been in office 2 months. I am working on a checklist on how to communicate with people effectively. I have a child and I understand.

Citizen: The district needs to be more professional. This was a big screw up. It was horrible.

Citizen: Could the police department have notified the Park Record.

Chief Carpenter: We don’t have authority. You have to understand how the process works. Had I knew the email was going out… we would have had a different email.

Citizen: What I have learned in my communications job is that when you put out something vague, people will fill in the blanks. The information should have been 100%. There should have been a dialogue before the May 3rd. I understand there is a child involved but we need this information and it should always be timely and it shouldn’t be vague. The police should look over these emails. They should be sent out a few days before. It’s also unfair to the kid [who made these threats].

Molly: I received the email that was supposed to go out to the public at 6PM. A lawyer vetoed a majority of information that was supposed to go out in email. I should have pushed harder to include most information. The timing of the email that went out was horrible.

Citizen: Who was involved in crafting the email.?

Molly: The board, the administration, and the lawyer reviewed the original email. I’m not sure who besides the lawyer reviewed the final email.

Citizen: I’m wondering if the board members were involved in the email. Their poor response to this issue concerns me.

Citizen: Why isn’t Ember here. This was the second time she hasn’t been here after a major issue.. We need our leader here.

Molly: Ember will be here a week from today.

Citizen: I would like to say that life is not perfect. I feel confident that the plan for security was good. So, while the communication was not optimal, I felt there was a plan in place and the schools were safe. I’m glad Molly is here. It is a learning experience for all of us.

Citizen: The crux of the problem is that we don’t trust the district, the school board, or Ember. When that happens, issues like this blow up.

Molly: We need to establish trust. What would help the school district get to that.

Citizen: When I first met Ember she was incredible. She responded to questions. Then after 6 months she stopped responding. She does that with the community, now. She gives different stories to different people. She has now built a wall between her and the community. Until this changes, I have no confidence in her.

Citizen: This is the second crisis (other is Ecker Hill incident involving Mr Spencer). The technology director was not there to answer why Mr Spencer’s alleged actions were not caught. That was the 3rd incident in a short period of time. We are not happy with communication and there have been walls built. We have issues in the district and it seems like the district puts a bandaid on and hopes we just forget. The district just hasn’t delivered.

Molly: Let’s talk about the Mr. Spencer thing. Gaggle is software we have implemented and that flags email and a human reads it when potentially dangerous information is found.

Citizen: Who made the decision to let the student who made threats back in to our schools?

Molly: I don’t know.

Citizen: I can answer that. I got a call from my daughter on April 14th. She told me that the student would be back at school. I met with various people at the district about this and shared my daughters concerns about this student coming back. They gave me the safety pan. I went home and gave it some thought. I still didn’t feel comfortable. So, on the 15th I went to the Park City Police. I brought evidence that included a Tumblr account. I asked my daughter about this tumblr account. So, I looked at it and its content was concerning. It was scary stuff. I then went to the high school and felt this was a legit concern to our community. Parents should be aware. Teachers should be aware. However they were making special exceptions that this girl is coming back to the learning center because they can control her there. I asked, does the Board Know? They said no. I asked then who does? The answer was the Administration. However, Ember never was in these meetings. Tom VanGorder said that they would send something out early to all teachers about it. Ember lied. It is B.S. that Ember said parents got concerned the day of. I have the days in April documented that the district was supposed to send things out that month but they didn’t. Parents were concerned weeks before.

Citizen: Ember needs to step down.

Molly: Let’s talk about fixing it.

Citizen: We need to build trust. If the school board wants to stay in place, they need to fire Ember.

Citizen: If we don’t want more fallout. Everyone of the people at last night’s school board candidate forum said that this was a disaster. We need an apology from Ember. She needs to show up. Ember is not an effective leader. She needs to admit that. She needs to step down. If she doesn’t, it will come out in the school board election. People will be elected that will fire Ember.

Citizen: What are the students thinking about this?

Student Who is at Meeting: I didn’t know about it until I got to school. I got to the learning center and no one knew. We were scared once we found out. Teachers didn’t talk about it or address it. They acknowledged the threat but kept it business as usual.

Citizen: Teacher’s always do what teachers are supposed to do. That is why they are so important.

Citizen: If there were a real threat, school wouldn’t be open. There were a huge population of parents who didn’t even know about this… I made the decision to keep my kids in school to show them I’m not nervous. The principal at Jeremy had a lockdown drill planned for that day and cancelled it. He handled it perfectly.

Citizen: Why is this school district having a problem? These issues are a common thing. Every other school district handles it. Why not us?

Molly: Ember is smart. She is good. If there would have been a problem, school would have been closed.

Citizen: I trust Molly and I trust Chief Carpenter, but I don’t trust Ember.

Citizen: We have one of the best districts in the nation. We have a lot of good things. Every single piece of good news has been buried in bad news for years. Now that Molly is here, hopefully that changes.

Citizen: It’s because our district handles things so poorly.

Citizen: Why did the police come to the Kearns Campus if there was no threat?

Chief Carpenter: We had officers there for the parents.

Citizen: So, you were not planning on having officers there?

Chief Carpenter: No, we were going to have a few officers there. At 6PM, we decided to have extra officers there to answer questions of parents after social media spun up. I wasn’t worried about this until individuals started calling me. I contacted people in the department and ensured that we had it handled, which we did. However, I wanted to make sure parents could ask questions of our officers (to ensure the parents were comfortable).

Citizen: This student could have walked into any school at anytime. Why didn’t Ember want to tell teachers about this ahead of time? Why did Ember make that decision not to tell her staff?

Molly: I can’t speak to that but there will be a new process.

Citizen: I’m hearing there are two intertwined issues. Every crisis situation will be different. You may not make the right decision. However, you need to acknowledge that you made a bad decision and tell us how you are going to fix it.

Citizen: The Tumblr account showed she had an obsession with Columbine. I understand that May 3rd was probably the safest day to be in school, but I had the information but most parents did not. I feel Ember lied to me.The district told me that the information was going to be distributed but it never was.

Citizen: Someone had to make the decision that this person should come back. What type of mental health screening was being done? Hopefully they had done their due diligence.

Citizen: What is being done for this person now? It sounds like she has issues. Is she getting the support they need.

Citizen: Is there special treatment for this individual?

Molly: Obviously we can’t respond with specifics.

Citizen: I think the fact that people are spreading this child’s name is horrible. We need to be better than this. We need to be careful.

Citizen: For three weeks, I kept my mouth shut and hoped that the district would do something. But they didn’t. Now unfortunately the name has been released because of the way this was handled by the district. It didn’t have to be this way.

Citizen: How many people know how many psychologist do we have in district? Two. We have no social workers in school.

Citizen: I want to know what the security plan is going forward? If I had a child at school from now until June 3rd, I may be concerned.

Chief Carpenter: When the child who made the threats is at the school, the student will have to be with their parent and the student has to be searched before they come on premise by the police.

Citizen: I trust you Chief Carpenter but I don’t trust the district the same way. We need to get there with the school district.

Chief Carpenter: During Sundance we had 3 bomb threats. We have active threats all the time. We handled it. We know how to handle these type of issues to the best of our ability.

Note: The discussion continued but I had to leave at 10 AM (an hour and a half into the one hour meeting)


So, that was the part of the meeting I could attend due to my day job.

Public comment is not always pretty… but it is an accurate assessment of how people feel. It was a doozy of a meeting. As someone who attends a lot of these things…this would be a 9 out of 10 on the scale of an engaging public meetings. Unfortunately the most engaging meetings are when some entity has screwed up. This would be one of those.

Social Media Erupts Over School District Handling of Threat to High School

In October 2015, the Park City School District received a threat directed at teachers and an Administrator at the High School. Last night at about 9:30 the school district sent an email about the issue to the media. Today, the community has erupted on social media.

It’s not good.

Here are a few examples of the 120 comments posted this morning on Facebook:

“I am extremely disgusted by this! I am a student at PCHS and I find out that someone might kill me and the rest of our student body a couple hours before hand! They’ve known since October! I am losing trust in our district and I don’t know how much more I have left especially since they have basically put my life at risk! I do not appreciate that and I will not be going to school tomorrow! Have fun dealing with this superintendent Conley thanks again for risking my life”


“Apart from dealing with decisions about sending our kids to school tomorrow, how are we supposed to go forward with any sense of security for our kids safety in the future with such a lack of trust?”


“Completely unacceptable and alarming! It’s obvious the only reason we are being informed is because ‘word got out’. What is being done to prevent it from happening on another day? What happened with the student(s) who made the threat? I think we need more than a ‘kids are safe, it was handled in October’ answer!”


“How, as a parent, am I supposed to make an informed decision regarding my kids safety when you keep crucial information and potentially life threatening danger a secret? Even now, you are withholding details that should have been shared months ago with parents. This is completely unacceptable and totally irresponsible given the recent rash of incidents in our country. Give us ALL the information NOW!”


“Reading a number of responses, I see the school district, once again, saying that ‘there is a lot of misinformation going around.’ From experience, this means that 1. PCSD has poorly handled an issue, 2. PCSD communication was too little, too late, 3. parents, once again, have had to do their own due diligence to uncover facts and help each other, 4. PCSD does not like the external information they are hearing, regardless of truth, and 5. you are about to hear that everything is just fine, don’t touch the curtain, there’s nothing to see here. This, from a person who likes Park City and its parents and teachers with all my heart.”


“The true threat to our students is not this incident related to May 3rd. The threat is that our school system is being run by Dr. Conley who has repeatedly demonstrated she is not up for the job. She should step down from her position effective immediately.”


And yes, there are a hundred plus more comments that say similar things. This is turning into a big issue for the School District. I bet the School Board is following social media on this one.

Were School District Policies Followed With Regard to Students Making Threats That Impacted the Kearns Campus Today?

Late last night Park City School District Superintendent Dr Ember Conley issued a press release notifying the public that there were threats made (in October 2015) against the Kearns Campus that mentioned today’s date. This morning, in an interview with KPCW’s Leslie Thatcher, Dr. Conley said that it was Park City School District students who had made threats against certain teachers and a school administrator. Ms. Thatcher asked if the students had been suspended. Dr. Conley replied that due to student confidentiality she couldn’t say but that all policies were followed.

So, what is the policy on making threats against a school? Policy 10100 – Safe Schools says:

2.I.B: A student shall be suspended from school for participation in any of the following prohibited conduct when it occurs (a) on school grounds, in school facilities, at school-related events, and in school dispatched or funded transportation, or (b) wherever it occurs, if it has a direct impact on the discipline or safety of the schools or the learning experience of a student.

Chapter 2.I.B.6 specifically seems to mention today’s threat when it provides an example: “(6) Commission of an act involving the use of force or the threatened use of force which substantially interferes with the educational process in the school, for another student or for an educator;.” I’d say that 2.I.B.6 fits the bill, since today is an AP testing day, students are likely freaked out about this, the police and fire department are on premises, and the threat was made against educators.

So, that indicates that it is likely the students who made these threats should have been suspended from school. But for how long?

In Chapter 2.II.A.1.C it says:

“Procedures for Suspension A. When a student engages in conduct for which suspension is possible or required under Chapter 2 of this policy, the following procedures shall occur: 1. For the first offense:(c) If the conduct is described in Chapter 2, Section I.B.2 through I.B7 of this policy, the principal or designee shall suspend the student for ten consecutive school days and in addition shall refer the student to the superintendent for suspension for up to an entire school year, or its equivalent imposed over two school calendars. Principals can also recommend a suspension for an indefinite period of time.”

So, the question is, was this policy followed? Were the students suspended for 10 straight days? Were each of them referred to the Superintendent for a decision on whether to be suspended for up to a year? Did high school principal Bob O’Connor decide to indefinitely suspend any students?

We’ve reached out to the school district with these questions and will report back with what they tell us.

We are not looking for individual students names. That would be a violation of privacy laws. However, we as citizens need to know that school policies are always followed. Even more importantly in a case that apparently was egregious enough to “beef up security” at our schools, we need to know that from the beginning this was taken very seriously. If the school district followed their policies, even though it may appear to be tough on some students, we’ll be on our way to knowing that our district won’t stand by idly for threats.

Opt Out of the Yellow Pages

My first internship in college was working for Sprint Publishing and Advertising (one of the largest yellow pages providers in the country at that time). This was before the Internet was used by hardly anyone outside of universities, research and development, and government. I was tasked with task of trying to electronify their yellow pages. Twenty years on, the Yellow Pages companies never figured that out and the world has passed them by. Yet, every year yellow pages end up being thrown somewhere on your lawn by some random car that drives by. My only hope is that it isn’t too far from the recycle bin… so it’s not much effort to toss it immediately in.

This year I finally took the step I should have for years now — opting out of the yellow pages. The process is simple. Go to www.yellowpagesoptout.com. You provide your zipcode and they will show you the publications that could be delivered to you. Then you can opt out for some or all of them. The only catch is that they need your address, email, and phone number. They promise that they will not use your information. However, I never really believe that. So, I use my gmail address that handles spam effectively and give them a Google Voice number, so my cell phone doesn’t start to get spammed.

It was about a 3 minute effort and hopefully those efforts will save at least a tree or two.

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Threat Made Against Kearns Campus for Today (May 3rd)

We just received a release from the Park City School District citing a threat made about the Kearns Campus back in October, 2015 that mentioned today’s date (May 3, 2016). Therefore, you may see an increased police presence today.

Both the district and police department are doing the right thing by being vigilant. Most likely this was just a threat made by an idiot, but you never know. Hopefully they will catch and prosecute the person who made the threat to the fullest extent of the law.

However, this does serve as a reminder that there are bad people in this world and it’s our job as parents, educators, and community members to teach our children what to do in a situation like that. Of course, opinions vary on the right strategy for your child in the case of a school shooting, but here are a few opinions:

How to Teach Your Child to Survive a School Shooting

The Scary New Normal

Three Things Your Child Can Do to Survive a School Shooter

The other thing to point out is that many people have been opposed to Utah’s laws that enable teachers to carry concealed weapons. Yet, it is likely that just the mere fact that some teachers will be armed on the Kearns Campus will prevent someone from committing violence at our schools.

Of course, people who commit these types of crimes aren’t always logical. Therefore, the care our schools are taking in the situation makes complete sense.

Here is the press release from the district. If you have questions, you can contact the Office of the Superintendent at 435.645.5600.

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Update: A reader wrote in and said that a comment in the story about “people with mental illness aren’t always logical” was out of line. I have responded in the comments below, but she is probably right. I didn’t intend to generalize anything about those suffering from mental illness or imply that most people with a mental illness would somehow be violent. I have changed the article to reflect this. Thanks to the reader for pointing out this out.

 

 

Office Hours With Ember Conley (4/30/2016)

The Park City School District Superintendent, Dr. Ember Conley, meets every Friday (through May 27) with citizens in an open, friendly environment at Hugo Coffee. No topic is off-limits. Each week, Dr Conley answers questions about what the Park City Schools are doing. Below, is a summary of last Friday’s discussion. Much of the session was dominated with a discussion of a nurse at Parley’s Park who may not been rehired for the next year. Other topics included mental health, master planning, and testing.

  • A citizen asked about mental health month and what the district is doing about it. She says mental health can cover a multitude of issues and not just the extremes. It can cover anxiety, depression, etc. She says it is important to pay attention to all of those issues.
    • Dr. Conley says she agrees it is important.
    • The talk shifted to test anxiety. One of the citizens talked about how she is organizing therapy dogs to go into the high school with them. She is looking for ways to get more teachers interested. Dr. Conley said she can help. She suggested that the citizen should focus on the a few teachers until the use becomes more prevalent.
  • A citizen says that she was involved with master planning the last time around. She says, though, she is hearing more conversations about the 6th graders back into elementary.
    • Dr Conley says one board member has been talking about moving the 6th grade back into our existing elementary schools and another member says that the decision has already been made to go with a separate 5-6.
    • Dr Conley says that the board has now asked her to form a committee to look at both possibilities (pre K to 6th vs a separate 5-6 school). The timeframe includes having everything to the board by next March. Before March, meetings will be held with the community to get input (much like is being done on the new rec facility).
  • A citizen says he has 3 kids in schools. His middle child is Type 1 Diabetic. He says there is a rumor that the Parley’s Park nurse may not be rehired. He says he doesn’t have the words to express how much he appreciates what the Parley’s Park nurse does. He and his wife view it as the fact the nurse saves their child’s life every day. The Citizen says the nurse is so important because Type 1 Diabetes is different every day. Citizen says it is so disappointing that the district may not value this nurse. The citizen says there are 3 type 1 diabetics at Parley’s Park.
    • Dr Conley says that in her former district it was high poverty and low income and they had full time nurses. She says that she knows they have massive improvements to make. She says using the model of a full time nurses and with a nurse manager is the model they are going for in 2017-2018. She says as the population has grown, there are now more needs.
    • Citizen says he is concerned that this is a personality issue between people at the district and people at Parley’s Park vs the nurse. He says this is hearsay, of course… but he hears that this is more vengeance than doing the right thing for the kids. He says it will be disappointing if that is the case. Citizen says he has no relationship or vested interest in this particular nurse, other than that she is great with his kids.
  • A citizen relayed a story about high school students not caring about Galileo testing, and therefore not taking the test seriously. The citizen asked where our district stands on having the Galileo test, SAGE, and then individual tests that lead to an unending series of tests at our high school. Dr Conley responded that there should be a shift as we go to more collaborative team process. She said that one of the issues is that teachers are still giving certain exams (i.e. some year end exams) that duplicate what the Galileo testing is doing. Another citizen asked whether the Galileo testing could be used for grades. Dr Conley said, yes. Dr Conley also responded that teachers can submit questions for the Galileo testing.
    • Another citizen says that they have talked to teachers and the teachers have tried to add questions and it has not happened. Dr Conley says that they don’t think it’s too widespread.
    • Dr Conley also responded that is Galileo more than just a test. It can also help teachers teach to areas where there are problems. For instance, if a majority of students have a deficiency in an area, Galileo can provide supplemental lessons and quizzes to help make sure students get the education they need.

There were a few other discussions but that was the majority of the meeting. “Office Hours” runs through the end of May. I would encourage you to attend (Friday’s at 8:30 at Hugo Coffee) if you have questions.

What About Increasing Frequency of Buses?

It seems that people I have heard from think that vans providing on-demand pickup to deliver residents to bus stop has zero-to-little chance of succeeding in getting people on buses.

So, here is another potential plan by the city and county: Increased frequency. Instead of waiting 30 minutes for a bus they will come every 7 to 15 minutes (on certain routes). I believe this has an estimated cost to the county of about $1.5 million. I’m not sure if Park City Municipal would have costs in addition to that (i.e. paying their share) but I would guess so.

What do you think? Would that get you on a bus more often?

Summit County Drug Court Serves and Saves

The Summit County Drug Court was established in 2011 to allow non-violent felony drug offenders who meet certain criteria an opportunity to avoid lengthy incarceration by voluntarily participating in a program that provides structured regular drug testing and monitoring of the offender for compliance with firm conditions.

Recently BYU students did a review of program in an attempt to answer two questions:

  • Does the existence of the drug court reduce the number of inmates in the County Jail Facility thus helping the facility remain viable long term by delaying the need to expand or build a new facility
  • Is the drug court effective in reducing the number of drug offenders who are repeat offenders

So, how does a typical drug court work? Generally certain felony drug offenders are offered the ability to plead guilty to drug charges in exchange for being put into the program. As part of the program, offenders are usually tested three times per week for drugs and/or alcohol. The cost of testing is paid by the offender. Additional measures are included such as performing community service, attending regular meetings, and writing a report.

The program lasts a minimum of 24 months. If the offender successfully graduates, then they may have their criminal charges reduced.

So far, 7 of 18 participants have graduated. There are currently 11 participants in the drug court. The annual cost of the drug court is $20,000 (does not include wages of officials presiding over court). If these 11 participants were jail, at an estimated cost of $30,000 per inmate per year, it would cost the county $330,000 annually. Therefore, it appears it is a financially successful program.

Nationwide, there are many proponents of drug courts. They cite statistics such as 75% of drug court graduates remain arrest-free after 2 years and reduce crime by as much as 45% over other sentencing options. However, there are also those that cite that drug courts cause individuals to lose rights and discriminate against those who cannot afford to pay for drug tests.

It will be interesting to watch if Summit County invests more heavily and expands the program. So far, with its limited reach and limited budget it seems to be providing benefits to our community.

To read more about Summit County’s Drug Court, click here.

 

An Interesting Idea from Summit County on Transportation

Last week I had the chance to sit down with Summit County’s person in charge of transportation, Caroline Ferris. One of the issues we discussed was buses. I mentioned that one of the impediments I see with regard to adoption is that often people either need to walk a long way or would need to drive, park, wait, and then catch the bus.

Ms. Ferris offered a solution to that problem. She said that the city and county were looking into a shuttle service that could be scheduled to pick you up from your home and drop you off at a bus stop in time to catch the bus. Here is how it would likely work… Let’s say you want to take the 7:30 AM bus from Pinebrook to Prospector. You’d use an app and tell the bus service that you wanted to be on that 7:30 bus. They’d then schedule a van to come pick you (and others) up and transport you to the bus stop by 7:30. Of course, you may need to get picked up at 7:10, so that the van could service other people as well.

I said to Ms. Ferris that this process must be complex from a scheduling standpoint. She said that it wasn’t actually that hard. She said that the Park City Transit software currently had much of that capability built into the program and they were looking to find an area to pilot this type of program.

I personally think it would solve one of two big impediments to bus ridership, the last mile to people’s homes. The other of course, is ensuring that bus trips don’t take too much longer than a car. If it takes an hour to get from Pinebrook to Prospector, you can’t assume many people will take that option. However, if you can get to Prospector in 30 minutes or to Canyons (from Pinebrook) in 20 minutes, people would likely do it.

In speaking with a few other citizens about this, they bring up some of the negatives, of course. Having vans circulating through neighborhoods isn’t exactly “green” and there is a cost to ensuring that everyone who wants to schedule a pickup CAN schedule a pickup. Yet, it’s an interesting idea.

If the city and county could really pull this off, I think it would be a great test of whether locals want to take buses at all. The ride would be free. You’d be picked up at your door. About your only excuse left for not riding buses… is that you don’t want to ride a bus.

I like this sort of innovative thinking, though. In the long run, the only way we’ll really know if it will work is to try it. So, I hope Park City Transit pilots this soon. I hope they pilot it in an area like Park Meadows, which seems to get a lot of bus usage (the trips are shorter). If it works there, I’d like to see an expanded pilot into the “burbs.”

Regardless of whether this plan is ultimately successful, it shows that our transit officials are thinking outside the box. That is definitely a good thing.