An Interesting Idea from Summit County on Transportation
Last week I had the chance to sit down with Summit County’s person in charge of transportation, Caroline Ferris. One of the issues we discussed was buses. I mentioned that one of the impediments I see with regard to adoption is that often people either need to walk a long way or would need to drive, park, wait, and then catch the bus.
Ms. Ferris offered a solution to that problem. She said that the city and county were looking into a shuttle service that could be scheduled to pick you up from your home and drop you off at a bus stop in time to catch the bus. Here is how it would likely work… Let’s say you want to take the 7:30 AM bus from Pinebrook to Prospector. You’d use an app and tell the bus service that you wanted to be on that 7:30 bus. They’d then schedule a van to come pick you (and others) up and transport you to the bus stop by 7:30. Of course, you may need to get picked up at 7:10, so that the van could service other people as well.
I said to Ms. Ferris that this process must be complex from a scheduling standpoint. She said that it wasn’t actually that hard. She said that the Park City Transit software currently had much of that capability built into the program and they were looking to find an area to pilot this type of program.
I personally think it would solve one of two big impediments to bus ridership, the last mile to people’s homes. The other of course, is ensuring that bus trips don’t take too much longer than a car. If it takes an hour to get from Pinebrook to Prospector, you can’t assume many people will take that option. However, if you can get to Prospector in 30 minutes or to Canyons (from Pinebrook) in 20 minutes, people would likely do it.
In speaking with a few other citizens about this, they bring up some of the negatives, of course. Having vans circulating through neighborhoods isn’t exactly “green” and there is a cost to ensuring that everyone who wants to schedule a pickup CAN schedule a pickup. Yet, it’s an interesting idea.
If the city and county could really pull this off, I think it would be a great test of whether locals want to take buses at all. The ride would be free. You’d be picked up at your door. About your only excuse left for not riding buses… is that you don’t want to ride a bus.
I like this sort of innovative thinking, though. In the long run, the only way we’ll really know if it will work is to try it. So, I hope Park City Transit pilots this soon. I hope they pilot it in an area like Park Meadows, which seems to get a lot of bus usage (the trips are shorter). If it works there, I’d like to see an expanded pilot into the “burbs.”
Regardless of whether this plan is ultimately successful, it shows that our transit officials are thinking outside the box. That is definitely a good thing.
Tour Treasure Mountain Junior High
The school district is ramping up efforts to convince you that TMJH needs to meet the solid end of a wrecking ball. I don’t think most people probably need convinced of that. Hopefully, though, the district will use these same sorts of efforts when more controversial items are brought up (i.e. the new 5/6 school).
The tour will be held Monday May 9th at Treasure Mountain Junior. The tour will leave promptly at 8:45AM from the school’s lobby. It will be led by Facilities Director Todd Hansen and Principal Emily Sutherland.
If you want to tour crowded hallways, drink brown water from pipes, breathe in dust with lead from contaminated vents, and possibly bring home a bit of the curse that is evidently plaguing the school (like when Bobby Brady brings found that tiki idol in Hawaii), then this just might the tour for you. If you are more of the faint-of-heart type, I might suggest the Park City Ghost Tour. It may be a little less scary.
Feeding the Beast … Is Traffic Really a Problem?
We’ve all sat in traffic on a random Friday at about 4:30. I know that traffic in town during the week after Christmas is horrible. We’ve all read about CARMAGEDDON (some even experienced it). Almost all of us have experienced BLINKING LIGHT SYNDROME when stoplights in Kimball Junction start blinking red.
Yet, is it really a problem? More importantly, if it really is a problem, is it a problem we can solve?
The reason I ask is that the city and county are poised to spend multiples of millions of dollars on trying to solve the “problem.” During the last few years, it seems there have been countless stories in the Park Record and on KPCW about how bad traffic is. However, as time goes on, I wonder if we are all just being ginned up, for lack of anything better to talk about.
Ask any of your friends or family visiting from Washington DC, Florida, or Los Angeles if the traffic is bad here and I’d bet they’d say “what traffic?”. A couple of years ago my sister was from Chicago during the week before New Years. I asked her if the traffic would stop here from coming back…she said…you guessed it, “what traffic?
I realize that traffic is probably worse here than during the 80’s when Park City was really a one horse town, but do we have a problem? You may say “who cares. What harm can it do to make traffic better?” The problem is that “traffic” often becomes an incubator for other projects and solutions. It leads to a myriad of solutions, poised to save us from what may become a REAL PROBLEM, but isn’t now.
I’ll be the first to admit that traffic could become a real issue if economic growth continues around Park City. Yet, in Park City does it regularly take 3 hours to get home from skiing on a Sunday? No. That’s what folks in Denver face. Does it take an hour to go 2 miles? Maybe once a year… maybe.
So, do we have a traffic problem? If your definition of problem is having to wait at all… then yes. However, in the scheme of things, the wait just isn’t that long. And the question we need to ask as citizens is whether it is really a problem worth pouring millions into.
Every time we complain or tell others that “traffic was horrible,” when it was only a minor inconvenience, we are feeding the beast. We are telling our elected representatives that they must solve our traffic problem. They will add more bus routes. They will increase the frequency of buses. They will find ways to make it too expensive or cumbersome to drive. This is all in the name of “solving” traffic… because the people told them it was a problem, They are doing what they are supposed to do — listen to the people.
So, I ask the following questions of fellow citizens, “Do we have enough of a traffic problem, to throw millions of dollars at it?” If you say yes, “What then is the likelihood that our local governments can actually solve it?”
If you answer yes to the first question and give them better than 50% odds on the second question, then I suppose constantly complaining about traffic makes sense. However, if you don’t think it’s worth it or you don’t think they can solve it, all complaining is going to do is likely waste time, money, and resources that could spent more effectively elsewhere.
We live in a great place with many great elected officials that actually often listen to their constituents. That’s rare. We just need to ensure that they are hearing the right things. If not, we are doing ourselves a huge disservice.
New Stories Shortly
Hi Everyone.
Sorry there haven’t been many new articles recently. I have been a bit wrapped up in the Park City Follies.
However, we should be back soon with new articles about:
- Buses
- E-bikes
- Boyer Tech Park
- Skullcandy
- The land next to Jeremy Ranch Elementary
- Water
- Dogs
- School Board
- Drugs
- …and more
So, thanks for the patience! See you soon.
Summit County Day Celbration Was Nice
Last Saturday, the county held a celebration for Summit County Day. The county cordoned off a small section of the Tanner Outlet mall parking lot next to the playground. They gave away free hot dogs, had face painters, and balloons. Perhaps one of the best part of the event was the sheer number and diversity of Summit County employees who attended. There were sheriff’s deputies, firefighters, transportation planners, emergency planning people, people talking about forest fires… and I’m probably leaving out many others.
Also, Summit County Council members showed up too. I personally had the great opportunity to visit with Tal Adair, Kim Carson, Roger Armstrong, and Claudia McMullin about what’s going on in the county. Ms McMullin was even showing off her bright pink (I mean salmon colored) E-Bike that was on loan from Pedego. She was letting anyone and everyone try it out. I don’t think I’ve seen adults having so much fun in a long time.
Perhaps my wife summed it up best when she said, “I don’t know who was responsible for that [Summit County Day party) but they should be commended. I don’t always agree with everything that happens here, but seeing all those different people who are working to help us every day behind the scenes makes me feel really good about our community.”
Yep, it was a job well done.
Saturday is Summit County Day
This Saturday (4/16) at the Tanger Outlets from 11AM to 2PM, Summit County will behaving a party of sorts. The county will have a fire truck and safety trailer for kids, face painting, balloons, hotdogs, and a scavenger hunt (with prizes) to celebrate Summit County Day.
Especially if you have kids, it looks to be a good way to spend an hour on Saturday. Here’s a tip… for the scavenger hunt, you need to take 10 pictures from a list of specific places across the county on your mobile phone. You’ll then need to show them the pics from your phone. Here is the scavenger hunt form.
Park City Bus Ridership Statistics
As long time readers know, I have been skeptical of Park City bus service providing a larger part of the solution to our traffic problems, than it does today. In its current form, I see how visitors may use the service but have a difficult time envisioning locals utilizing it more.
I had heard through the grapevine that my conjecture was off base; that the bus service was exceeding expectations. I was told that it was doing so well that additional bus service was being considered.
I’ll be the first to admit that actual statistics usually trump gut feelings. So, a few weeks ago I reached out to Summit County for statistics on the number of riders using bus service. I wanted to see if actual data backed up my anecdotal theories. I’ll save any commentary until I have a chance to sit down with Summit County Regional Transportation Planning Director Caroline Ferris and discuss the trends they are seeing.
However, I did want to present the data. Below is a graph of bus ridership from 2015 to present (2015 is in bright yellow and you can click the graph for larger version)). If you are interested, you can also the detailed data that shows ridership by general route.
If you have any questions you’d like me to ask Summit County (given this data), please email me at
Want your kid to attend an Ivy League school? Have them write their admissions essay on Costco.
While most college application deadlines have come and gone, it’s never to soon to start thinking about next year. With that in mind, I saw this story about Britney Stinson, a high school senior who wrote her college admission essay about a trip to Costco with her mom. This essay, along with everything else she has done, enabled her to get accepted into five Ivy League schools and Stanford. Not bad.
When reading about her background, it reminded me of many Park City students. Quartz reports, “Stinson’s SAT scores were in the high 90-something percentile (she wouldn’t say exactly her score) and she’s on track to graduate as her class’s valedictorian. Meanwhile, she participated in highly competitive STEM programs, loaded up on AP classes, was a competitive cross-country runner, and an active participant in her local community.” That’s not a lot different than many of our students. Yet, what seems to put her over the top is her ability to capture an experience that most of us have had, weave that into a story about what it means to be human, and ends with a metaphor that links her life experience to Costco visits. Wait, did her essay end with a metaphor? I don’t really know, but I think so… Maybe?
That’s probably why I went to a state school.
Here is her essay:
Prompt 1: Some students have a background, identity, interest, or talent that is so meaningful they believe their application would be incomplete without it. If this sounds like you, then please share your story.
Managing to break free from my mother’s grasp, I charged. With arms flailing and chubby legs fluttering beneath me, I was the ferocious two year old rampaging through Costco on a Saturday morning. My mother’s eyes widened in horror as I jettisoned my churro; the cinnamon-sugar rocket gracefully sliced its way through the air while I continued my spree. I sprinted through the aisles, looking up in awe at the massive bulk products that towered over me. Overcome with wonder, I wanted to touch and taste, to stick my head into industrial sized freezers, to explore every crevice. I was a conquistador, but rather than searching the land for El Dorado, I scoured aisles for free samples. Before inevitably being whisked away into a shopping cart, I scaled a mountain of plush toys and surveyed the expanse that lay before me: the kingdom of Costco.Notorious for its oversized portions and dollar-fifty hot dog combo, Costco is the apex of consumerism. From the days spent being toted around in a shopping cart to when I was finally tall enough to reach lofty sample trays, Costco has endured a steady presence throughout my life. As a veteran Costco shopper, I navigate the aisles of foodstuffs, thrusting the majority of my weight upon a generously filled shopping cart whose enormity juxtaposes my small frame. Over time, I’ve developed a habit of observing fellow patrons tote their carts piled with frozen burritos, cheese puffs, tubs of ice cream, and weight-loss supplements. Perusing the aisles gave me time to ponder. Who needs three pounds of sour cream? Was cultured yogurt any more wellmannered than its uncultured counterpart? Costco gave birth to my unfettered curiosity.While enjoying an obligatory hot dog, I did not find myself thinking about the “all beef” goodness that Costco boasted. I instead considered finitudes and infinitudes, unimagined uses for tubs of sour cream, the projectile motion of said tub when launched from an eighty foot shelf or maybe when pushed from a speedy cart by a scrawny seventeen year old. I contemplated the philosophical: If there exists a thirty-three ounce jar of Nutella, do we really have free will? I experienced a harsh physics lesson while observing a shopper who had no evident familiarity of inertia’s workings. With a cart filled to overflowing, she made her way towards the sloped exit, continuing to push and push while steadily losing control until the cart escaped her and went crashing into a concrete column, 52-inch plasma screen TV and all. Purchasing the yuletide hickory smoked ham inevitably led to a conversation between my father and me about Andrew Jackson’s controversiality. There was no questioning Old Hickory’s dedication; he was steadfast in his beliefs and pursuits—qualities I am compelled to admire, yet his morals were crooked. We both found the ham to be more likable–and tender.I adopted my exploratory skills, fine-tuned by Costco, towards my intellectual endeavors. Just as I sampled buffalo-chicken dip or chocolate truffles, I probed the realms of history, dance and biology, all in pursuit of the ideal cart–one overflowing with theoretical situations and notions both silly and serious. I sampled calculus, cross-country running, scientific research, all of which are now household favorites. With cart in hand, I do what scares me; I absorb the warehouse that is the world. Whether it be through attempting aerial yoga, learning how to chart blackbody radiation using astronomical software, or dancing in front of hundreds of people, I am compelled to try any activity that interests me in the slightest.My intense desire to know, to explore beyond the bounds of rational thought; this is what defines me. Costco fuels my insatiability and cultivates curiosity within me at a cellular level. Encoded to immerse myself in the unknown, I find it difficult to complacently accept the “what”; I want to hunt for the “whys” and dissect the “hows”. In essence, I subsist on discovery.
Minimum Wage, Automation, Affordable Housing, and Traffic Around Park City
Across the country many cities are moving to a minimum wage of about $15. This has been met with both cheers and backlash. The cheers come from people glad our society wants to help people get closer to a living wage. The backlash comes from people who say that it hurts businesses and is not maintainable.
Either way, what we are seeing is a continued push to automation in service sector jobs. You can see examples of that everywhere from Chili’s (who put tablet computers for ordering at every table) to McDonald’s who is experimenting with self serve coffee kiosks in Chicago.
Here in Park City we don’t have to debate whether we should hike the minimum wage. The fair market has driven up wages for many “minimum wage” type jobs to between and $12 and $15. Yet, the outcome appears to be the same. If you’ve been in McDonald’s in Kimball Junction recently, you probably have noticed the self serve touch screen kiosk that takes orders. Likewise, when Smith’s expanded a few years back, what did they do? They dramatically expanded the number of self checkout stations. Likewise, when Whole Foods builds their new store (which is much bigger), it is likely they will take steps to minimize the extra number of workers required. Then if we look at the major player in town, Vail Resorts, they are good at what they do. It’s likely they will find a way to automate anything that won’t negatively impact the customer experience (if they haven’t already).
It’s true that this sort of automation will first flow to the chains, who can afford it. The Park City Pizzas of our community will come later. However, they’ll have to eventually automate in order to compete or they will disappear. That’s why the Papa John’s gives great discounts when ordering online. Every order that comes in online means fewer phone calls to be answered by a person.
The question I have is how will the impact both Park City area traffic and affordable housing needs. Fewer workers mean fewer people commuting in. The further question is whether that is a reduction of a handful people or hundreds of people across our community. Either way, it will mean less people on our roads.
Affordable housing is a little trickier by its nature. I still struggle with what is an “affordable house” in Park City. Rent controlled apartments are one thing but what’s an affordable house? Technically an “affordable” house is one that can be purchased by a family making the Area Median Income (AMI) of an area. Park City’s AMI is $80,000. So, an affordable house would max out at around $320K. There aren’t a lot of those around Park City, and it’s hard to see where huge growth in those properties comes from.
It makes me wonder, if somewhat like the previous article on preventing problems instead of solving them, if our government needs to help our community automate. I know that topic is taboo in many places because we don’t want to see our fellow community members lose jobs. However, if people are just driving into Park City from Salt Lake to get paid $14.50 at Panda Express, do we worry as much about making their job obsolete? Don’t get me wrong, I understand it is a slippery slope and many people that drive into our area every day are part of the fabric of our community. However, simple math says that fewer workers likely translates into fewer cars and less need for affordable housing.
Sure, we could try to get everyone on a bus and we’ll likely get a few to be part of the transportation solution. However, if we incentivized businesses to automate (which shouldn’t be too big of a stretch because it decreases their costs) and reduce the number of people on the roads, it’s one less person (or hundreds less people) we need to convince to ride a bus or go multi-modal.
Please don’t misconstrue this as a broad call to get rid of teachers, firemen, your local bartender, etc. However, if the city or county developed a plan to provide low cost financing (or other incentive) for automation, the local Del Taco may be able to take a few people off the road. Perhaps a few other businesses could do the same. Eventually perhaps we could have both strong economic growth and not increase the number of workers driving on our roads.
Or perhaps, it’s not worth it and we as a community want to maintain these types of jobs, even with some of the negatives that come with them.
That said, I think it at least makes sense to consider a push to automate. If we are at the point where we are willing to figure out how to make it PAINFUL for our citizens to drive and park around Park City (in order to incent people to get out of their cars), then I think automating some jobs may be a better part of the solution.
Everything Has Its Price … Do We Want to Continue to Pay It on Transportation?
Quick Quiz…
According to Summit County, which group is more responsible for congestion on our roads?
A. Locals
B. Workers living outside the Snyderville Basin and other visitors
The answer is …wait for it… B.
According to a recent staff report given to the Summit County Council, “It’s a common misconception that the Snyderville Basin and the greater Park City area have experienced tremendous residential growth in the past years and because of this, residents are concerned about the amount of traffic congestion. Analysis of Census population numbers indicate that during the last five years, population growth has actually been below the state average; while Park City grew by about six percent, Summit County population only increased by about one percent overall.”
Here’s the money line that brings it all home, “In reality, it’s not residential growth that has led to congestion on our two primary roadways, SR-248 and SR-224. Instead, it’s the unintended consequence of amazing economic and job growth.”
The staff report says during the last 5 years the number of available jobs in the Park City area has increased 40%, compared to 15% increase in the number of jobs statewide. So, our economy appears to be growing much faster than even the Utah average, which is the fastest in the country. Ask 10 people on the street and 11 of them would probably say that’s a good thing.
Yet, when you think about traffic, maybe it’s not.
When we expanded the village at Kimball and added all the little shops and fast food (Del Taco, 5 Guys, Zupas, the ice cream place, Simply Mac, Spectrum Salon, the Barking Cat, the AT&T store, Pure Barre, Spring Mobile, Jimmy Johns, Park City Bagel, and Freebirds) how many of those folks working there live near Park City? Oh, we also expanded Smiths and added on a fuel station. I love my Smith’s Fuel points but how many of those folks drive by themselves to work from Heber or Salt Lake?
Also don’t forget the Hyatt Hotel recently completed on 224, next to Park City Nursery. That was supposed to be a small restaurant and some office space. Now we have a hotel. How many people work at the hotel? How many people drive into the Snyderville Basin to work there? How many visitors stay there every night?
Also don’t forget that a few years ago we allowed Walmart to expand and also become a grocery. Did that increase the number of people on the road? A couple of years ago, we also approved an expansion of Tanger Outlet mall. My guess is that at least 10-20 new shops were part of that expansion. How many cars did that add to the road?
We’ve just approved a new Whole Foods that will be, I think, 30%-40% larger than the existing Whole Foods. How many extra people driving into the Snyderville Basin is that? Oh, and there are going to be up to 10 other retail stores as part of that development.
By the way, these were mostly net new entitlements. Most didn’t have to be allowed. Oh, and yes I know that the County says that the new Whole Foods isn’t an increased entitlement…that it is the same square footage as was previously granted in 2003. If so, it seems strange that there was so much debate about traffic and affordable housing related to something that was already approved and was “the same” as before. I would also bet that if the development agreement for this land wasn’t changed (thus allowing Whole Foods) the dirt would not have been moved yet (or for a quite a while).
I guess, all in all, I’m not surprised that job postings in the Snyderville Basin have gone up 40%.
And please don’t tell me that if we offered offered more affordable housing with bus stops at every location, it would have solved (or will solve) the issue. Even in Salt Lake, where public transit is deemed successful, only 5% of the people take public transportation.
All that said, I think Summit County has achieved what it set out to do — achieve economic growth coming out of the Great Recession. Yet even that seemingly admirable goal, has a price. Now we are learning what that price is.
I now hear that locals are scheming to get a new Trader Joe’s or Sprouts where the old (current) Whole Foods was. They are emailing Trader Joe’s corporate headquarters asking them to come to Park City. Forget the fact that Whole Foods has a lease there for the next few years … and I’m SURE Whole Foods would sublease to a competitor, not. Perhaps in three or four years, when the lease is done, we may see a Sprouts there. But do we really need 5 Supermarkets within 3 miles of each other? As important, do we need the extra employee cars on the road at rush hour?
How many cars have we added to our roads because we allowed more development (that we didn’t have to)?
If I’ve learned anything over my lifetime, it’s that it is easier to prevent a problem than to solve it. It’s seems that in the last five years, we’ve created (or at least heavily contributed to) a problem that we now need to solve. More traffic.
Is this the only reason we have congested roadways? Of course not. We live in a desirable place.
Going forward, even without increasing entitlements, we have so much entitled land that things will likely get worse with traffic. Yet, we as a community need to under the ramifications of our choices. If we hypothetically wanted to ask the County to rezone a portion of land on Highway 40, so Costco could come in, we need to understand what that means. If we elect leaders that want to bring businesses to Summit County we need to contemplate what the downside is.
Please don’t get me wrong. I shop at Smith’s. I go to the quick serve restaurants at the Village at Kimball. I’ll be the first in line at the new Whole Foods. Yes, I shop at Walmart. And I usually always drive my car. So, I get that I’m part of the problem.
That said, at some point, we’ll all need to look in the mirror while sitting in traffic. Instead of bitching about the cars, we’ll need to understand that in some ways we caused it.
Summit County Council Chairperson Roger Armstrong often says that there is no one solution to our traffic problems. I completely agree with those statements. However, I believe we not only need to find a multitude of solutions to our current problems but also find ways to prevent them in the first place.